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Post by Keke » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:43 pm

So I'm curious if any of you ladies and/or gents go poo free. And what I mean by poo is shampoo. XD

I've been debating on whether I want to try going shampoo free for a while. My hair is very picky and I usually have to change shampoos every couple of months. I'm curious if anyone has ever tried going shampoo free. If you have, did you like the results? Any tips or suggestions for a beginner?

When I say shampoo free, I don't mean not washing your hair completely. That's yucky. I mean using stuff like baking soda and apple cider vinegar to wash your hair. Like this blogger here (found on pinterest man I love that place). And not using the over the counter stuff that they have in stores.

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Post by phantomlolita » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:55 pm

I used baby powder for a long time. I actually liked it a lot. You could also just use dry shampoos, I hear they're pretty great.

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Post by Keke » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:03 pm

I've used dry shampoos before. They don't really work all that well with my dark hair. They leave it looking kind of gray and oily.

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Post by LucyKitsch » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:13 am

I'm interested in trying it but I don't know where to begin.
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Post by Keke » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:21 pm

Haha I'm doing it more for the benefit of my hair and the lower cost. Going shampoo free will be so much cheaper.

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Post by Parker » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:15 pm

I've never tried such a thing, except maybe the egg and honey thing when I was younger. And that was one of my grandma's crazy schemes. She said it would help me with my split ends.

My hair is naturally oily, which makes it pretty shiny when clean, but also means that clean feel goes off the day after I wash it. I have this shampoo for oily hair that works like a charm, but also dries it a lot and my head itches if I use it for too long. So I have to steal my dad's shampoo (it's the regular H&S shampoo) whenever I start getting too much dandruff.

I remember this documentary where a guy said that after a certain amount of time without washing your hair, all the dirt and oil in it sort of go away. He had this huge scientific explanation but I can't remember it. He found out about it while researching some lost tribes in America. He said he hadn't washed his hair for years and it looked pretty clean and healthy. But I'm not risking doing that :P

In Spain there's a famous soap brand, "Lagarto" (lizard), that seems to be good enough for washing your hair, body and clothes. It has a very basic formula, with no chemicals, which makes it perfect for everything. I've heard stories of it curing severe cases of acne and oily hair, but this comes from the same lady who put eggs and honey on my hair.

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Post by LucyKitsch » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Parker, totally. I don't know the technical stuffs (though I have researched it,) but basically, shampoo that most people use strips the hair of it's natural oils, and then it and conditioner replace those oils with fake ones that basically require you to wash much more often because your hair looks more oily sooner.

And Keke, yeah, cheaper is great, too. I just use Beauty Without Cruelty brand for shampoo right now. So great.

And oh, Parker, stuff like Dr. Bronner's is basically what you're talking about. (Just sold in the US and such, too.) It prides itself on being able to be diluted and mixed a bunch of ways and literally being able to be turned into any sort of cleaning agent. They have different brands of similar stuff, too. I actually use a different "Dr...." brand, but I can't remember it's name.
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Re: No poo

Post by JadeWaters » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:45 am

try this it works for me... wash with a Horse Shampoo (trust me it sounds silly but it makes for very healthy hair) then after before air drying your hair (unless you have curly hair as I know that can make it frizz, in that case just just pat dry your hair NEVER shake it around or 'ruffle' it as that can lead to knots aka rat's nesting effect)... anyway while hair is still damp or wet massage a little coconut or almond oil into your scalp. just enough to make the skin soft not so much that it makes the hair oily. Then from there just air dry like I said.

I have baby fine yet thick hair so if I don't do this my hair ends up looking either dead lifeless and end up with dandruff or my hair ends up being overly oily from conditioners. Honestly if you are allergic to nuts (not sure if coconut counts as nuts allergies or not as I don't have it) then you can actually use mayo due to the egg that's in it. I know it sounds yucky but it works, and you just put it on as you would the stuff you get when you go to dye your hair. a thin layer, sit for about 10 minutes then rinse/wash off the stuff.
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Re: No poo

Post by LucyKitsch » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:17 am

I've totally heard all of that before! I mean, I'm vegan so no mayo, but... I was actually thinking of getting some coconut oil for "beauty" things. (My face, hair, etc..)
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Post by phantomlolita » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:17 pm

There is Vegenaise, I've heard you can use that instead of real mayo. I still prefer baby powder to anything. I color my hair black and it doesn't look grey/dusty as long as I do it right.

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Post by Parker » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:33 pm

DTChris wrote:try this it works for me... wash with a Horse Shampoo (trust me it sounds silly but it makes for very healthy hair)
Ok, so I remember this horse shampoo scandal from a couple of months ago. People were stocking on it as if it were the end of the world and everyone went around telling you to use it. There was a pretty quick response on the part of health experts and this is what I could find. I'm posting this just to share, it might not be your case, but some extra information can be useful. I'm quoting this article but I've found many more on this same topic.

Horse shampoo became very popular after some bloggers went on claiming how it had all these magnificent properties like making hair grow faster and making it shinier. Spanish authorities beg to differ, though. To begin with you can only get real horse shampoo at shops that specialise in products for animals, everything else is just a regular shampoo (for humans) with added biotin. Biotin IS a pretty important vitamin for our health, but it's only effective if administered orally; and I can't picture anyone eating shampoo, no matter how popular it is.

A regular diet already contains the necessary amount of biotin. Should you need to increase its amount then go for eggs (yolk), fish, cereals, nuts or even soy flour.

Hair growth seems to be pretty much the same for everyone: 1cm/month and there's no way to change that by using any products. All horse shampoo (real horse shampoo as in the one actually used on horses) can be pretty damaging for your scalp making it itchy, drying it and eventually causing more dandruff.

I personally wouldn't use something that has been designed for horses on my hair, I feel like we're talking about two different things here: a horse's mane can't be the same as human hair. Same way you wouldn't use your beauty products on a horse, I don't think the opposite would work.

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Post by LucyKitsch » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:40 pm

Interesting, thanks for that link!
I used some random brand of "horse mane tangle remover" type stuff but it was from Sally's (beauty shop.) It helped me un-dread my dreadlocks without having to cut them out, but I don't even think that stuff was real. And my hair must grow very quickly then. I do notice that it grows faster than a lot of my family. Probably 1 inch/mo.
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Post by Parker » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:54 pm

According to most articles the "fake" horse shampoo, the regular shampoo with the extra biotin, is much safer than the real thing. You will have to use real horse shampoo a lot for any of those things I described to happen, but still, better be safe than sorry.

1cm/month is the standard, some people's hair may grow faster. I always feel like my hair grows to fast too, which sucks because I like keeping it shoulder length and it gets too out of hand after three months or so. The only irregularities these experts mentioned were cases in which people suffered from a severe lack of biotin that could be solved by following some medical advice.

They also mentioned that the amount of natural hair loss is seasonal and we tend to lose more hair during autumn than winter. So most products claiming to solve that issue should be handled with caution as well. I'm finding this topic fascinating :D

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Post by LucyKitsch » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:00 pm

Well it was just super-strong detangler, not shampoo. But, yeah. :)
It does suck. I recently shaved my head and two weeks later, it was much more than peach fuzz already. Irritating! It's why I gave up going to actual salons years ago. My hair grows so quickly (always has) that it would cost me a ridiculous amount to have them keep it up a certain way.
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Post by Pinstripe » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:58 am

Maybe this is an old topic, but-

I've totally gone no poo, although I'm not doing it currently. I just used a baking soda and water solution. I tried using cider vinegar as well at first, but I couldn't get past the smell. It kinda made my head smell like salad dressing. :P But with just the baking soda, I found that I could go longer between washes than I can with shampoo. The only reason I've started using shampoo again is that I've moved to a more humid climate.
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Post by H|F » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:32 am

I love using baking soda and water mixture on my hair! It is so much healthier then it used to be.

I don't go poo free yet but what I do now is I will use the BSoda mixture for a few days to really cleanse and then I will use my normal shampoo BUT I have added water and BSoda to my shampoo! It helps me from getting any buildup or it leaving any residue which is normally my issue with that chemical crap! Also when I actually condition (1 weekly) I try my best not to get it on my scalp and work from the tips inward.

It works really well for my oily thin hair!

Oh and I have what most would call a dirty or ash blond hair and sometimes it has lived up to the ugly part of it's name sake but after switching to this regimen my hair has actual blond in it and VERY shiny and bouncy.

Another trick I use is at the very end of my shower I will rinse my hair a last time turning the water as cold as I can get it (just on my hair) and this helps with shine!
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Post by Marleaux » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:38 am

Omg this thread is so old and I missed and I'm still going WTF Keke.
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It's a relevent topic, it's an interesting subject especially for those who want to budget or go with healthy Eco friendly options for their body!
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Post by Sheesha » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:47 am

I actually don't use shampoo or a shampoo replacement? I just scrub really well with water.
But um, I have really curly hair, and I've found that if I straighten it, conditioner and no shampoo makes it oily after about three days (really curly hair; I wash it 1-2 times a week).

So, it works super well if your hair isn't prone to oiliness. I've had way fewer problems with frizz, because shampoo, even sulfate free, is so drying that avoiding it is a godsend.

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Post by DawnHunter » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:02 am

I wash my hair every other day and don't use conditioner. I use a comb, not a brush.
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Post by Naminote » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:37 am

In regards to dry shampoo, the top-rated one that I've personally tried and approve for dark hair is Klorane's Dry Shampoo.

As for weird hair care, some people put thrush cream on their scalp to promote hair growth. Though I think the horse shampoo thing is way out of that league of craziness.

I'm very scared of going no poo because my hair is extremely long and prone to oiliness. I can go two to three days before feeling some minor grossness. I might try it in the holidays, when I don't need to go outside and face the world so much.
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Sheesha wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:47 am
I actually don't use shampoo or a shampoo replacement? I just scrub really well with water.
But um, I have really curly hair, and I've found that if I straighten it, conditioner and no shampoo makes it oily after about three days (really curly hair; I wash it 1-2 times a week).

So, it works super well if your hair isn't prone to oiliness. I've had way fewer problems with frizz, because shampoo, even sulfate free, is so drying that avoiding it is a godsend.
Same here. I have curly hair too and it also becomes oily without a shampoo. One year ago I noticed some hair loss and it has become thinner. So I decided to stop 'pooing it, just wash it with warm water and a good scrubbing. It helped a bit, but there was a new problem with exсess oil. Been asking my friends for an advice, but everyone was just "You need a shampoo!". Then I've searched the internet and noticed L'Oreal Paris in this article. It was said it's for extra oily hair, so I decided to give it a try. Grabbed a bottle from a local store and... it was good. Still, need to wash my head twice a week.
Also, it usually comes in pair with a shampoo, but haven't tried it.
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Re: No poo

Post by Gwen » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:55 am

Necroing is bad kids, don't be like me.

Keke did you ever try this? What worked for you? I use non-sulfate shampoos because my scamp is ridiculously sensitive but I have thought of going this route before :P
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